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	<title>Comments on: Rambling</title>
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	<description>babblings!</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.cnaughton.com/2002/09/27/rambling/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2002 15:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, sorry for the confusion. I only had a search for the Greek Orthodox site. There&#039;s now one that searches the OCA site. It uses the URL set up for searching the saints names only. Go to my bookmarklets page mentioned first in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, sorry for the confusion. I only had a search for the Greek Orthodox site. There&#8217;s now one that searches the OCA site. It uses the URL set up for searching the saints names only. Go to my bookmarklets page mentioned first in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Basil</title>
		<link>http://blog.cnaughton.com/2002/09/27/rambling/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Basil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2002 20:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. I take that back. On further reflection, ISTM that this is, in fact, what you want, and the results aren&#8217;t as tainted as I earlier thought. So, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.kevinbasil.com/index.php?m=200209#110&quot;&gt;check this out&lt;/a&gt;! :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. I take that back. On further reflection, ISTM that this is, in fact, what you want, and the results aren&#8217;t as tainted as I earlier thought. So, <a href="http://blog.kevinbasil.com/index.php?m=200209#110">check this out</a>! <img src='http://blog.cnaughton.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Basil</title>
		<link>http://blog.cnaughton.com/2002/09/27/rambling/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Basil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. Geek out for a sec.&lt;br /&gt;
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What the bookmarklets do, if you haven&#8217;t noticed, is produce a well-formed URL for retrieving information from the site itself. If the site is not set up well, then you&#8217;re probably out of luck. In this case, you are out of luck.&lt;br /&gt;
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First, there is no &lt;strong&gt;good way&lt;/strong&gt; to get a saint by name. The only thing that comes close is the search function, which is quite broken, when used from the front page. Although the URL created by their search function can be hacked to get results &#8212; which is what we need anyway &#8212; there is no efficient way to pare the keywords down to get a good result set.&lt;br /&gt;
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The search &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oca.org/pages/tools/searchresults.asp?qu=%22Feasts%20and%20Saints%22+AND+basil+AND+great+AND+saint+AND+january&quot;&gt;&#8220;&quot;Feasts and Saints&quot; AND basil AND great AND saint AND january&#8221;&lt;/a&gt; (note that I had to know the date already) still yields 43 results, many of them not even saints pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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It sucks, but it&#8217;s the fault of the OCA webmaster, unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. Geek out for a sec.</p>
<p>What the bookmarklets do, if you haven&#8217;t noticed, is produce a well-formed URL for retrieving information from the site itself. If the site is not set up well, then you&#8217;re probably out of luck. In this case, you are out of luck.</p>
<p>First, there is no <strong>good way</strong> to get a saint by name. The only thing that comes close is the search function, which is quite broken, when used from the front page. Although the URL created by their search function can be hacked to get results &#8212; which is what we need anyway &#8212; there is no efficient way to pare the keywords down to get a good result set.</p>
<p>The search <a href="http://www.oca.org/pages/tools/searchresults.asp?qu=%22Feasts%20and%20Saints%22+AND+basil+AND+great+AND+saint+AND+january">&#8220;&#8221;Feasts and Saints&#8221; AND basil AND great AND saint AND january&#8221;</a> (note that I had to know the date already) still yields 43 results, many of them not even saints pages.</p>
<p>It sucks, but it&#8217;s the fault of the OCA webmaster, unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Basil</title>
		<link>http://blog.cnaughton.com/2002/09/27/rambling/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Basil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, he means a saint&#039;s name bookmarklet for the OCA site. Chris, checking into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, he means a saint&#8217;s name bookmarklet for the OCA site. Chris, checking into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.cnaughton.com/2002/09/27/rambling/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, and about the tables versus CSS thing. That was 1) a year ago, and 2) a commerce site like I expected cnaughton.com to be. Like I said, I&#039;m using tables to build a framework, but CSS for the formatting and styles. But then up until recently I was using Netscape 4 exclusively at home. I&#039;ve since upgraded to Mozilla 1.1. I still want to support Netscape 4, but at this point I&#039;m more comfortable with degraded support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and about the tables versus CSS thing. That was 1) a year ago, and 2) a commerce site like I expected cnaughton.com to be. Like I said, I&#8217;m using tables to build a framework, but CSS for the formatting and styles. But then up until recently I was using Netscape 4 exclusively at home. I&#8217;ve since upgraded to Mozilla 1.1. I still want to support Netscape 4, but at this point I&#8217;m more comfortable with degraded support.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.cnaughton.com/2002/09/27/rambling/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, check out http://www.worldtimzone.com/bookmarklets/&lt;br /&gt;
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The saint name thingy you wanted is already there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, check out <a href="http://www.worldtimzone.com/bookmarklets/" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldtimzone.com/bookmarklets/</a></p>
<p>The saint name thingy you wanted is already there.</p>
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